Friday, November 1, 2019

Impeachment Inquiry Vote


On Halloween, a vote was held by Nancy Pelosi from the house to impeach Trump. If this vote passes then Trump’s trial will become public and will be another step into removing him from office. The impeachment inquiry has been going on for 4 weeks now. So far the Democrats have been doing closed-door meetings to help acquire witnesses to the famous quid pro quo phone call. The democrats would need a majority vote to formalize the impeachment inquiry. Because the house voted to establish a formal impeachment inquiry, now the trial is set up in the Senate (Republican-controlled). There would need to be a 67% vote to remove the President from office. This, however, is unlikely because, during the house vote, not a single Republican voted against Trump. This investigation is figuring out if Trump misused his political power and if that amounted to serious enough crimes to deserve impeachment and removal. To read more about this goes to  The New York Times.
  1. If you were a Republican in the House would you have gone with the norm of your party or would you have voted to formalize then impeachment inquiry?
  2. If the vote hadn't happened yet, what do you think that outcome would be?
  3. Should the vote to formalize the impeachment inquiry be held sooner?
  4. Have you ever defended a friend even if they were wrong?


14 comments:

  1. 1) If I were a Republican in the House, I would have probably voted to establish a formal impeachment inquiry. Although being a Republican like Trump would mean we want the same things for our country, something of this magnitude shouldn't be ignored. He represents our country and if this happens over and over again then the rest of the world won't want to associate with the U.S in the future because our leader's reputation.

    2) If the vote hadn't happened yet, I would've assumed nothing was going to happen. Trump has made many stupid decisions and isn't a good person (in my opinion), and he hasn't yet been properly punished. When he got elected, many people believed Trump negotiated with Russia, making them hack into the presidential election and make Trump our president. This was about three years ago, and he is still president. I don't think another act of controversy is going to do anything, especially if the House is full of Republicans.

    3) Yes. Like I said, I don't think people were claiming Russia hacked the election for no reason. This was something important and the fact that he was something being accused of should've raised suspicion.

    4) I have defended friends even if they were wrong. But I don't think you can relate something as big as this to me supporting a friend's wrong answer on the math homework.

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  2. 1. If I were a Republican in the house, I would have voted to formalize the impeachment inquiry to explore further if the President obstructed justice. As a member of Congress, I would try to vote party over principle. The likelihood of President Trump obstructing justice in the phone call with Ukraine is plausible. Even though voting to formalize the impeachment inquiry raises the chance of President Trump getting impeached, there is still a chance that he was innocent, which would reveal how much of a witch hunt the case is. The Republicans can benefit by voting against Trump. President Trump would have a political gain if the Democrats were to accuse him falsely. House votings usually follow party lines, but I would strive to do what is right. Nanci Pelosi claimed, "no one comes to Congress to impeach a president"(The New York Times). Pelosi is stating that the Republicans and Democrats will not vote against their parties resulting in no impeachment. Even though voting to formalize the impeachment inquiry would be voting against Trump, it provides more consideration to uncover the truth about the phone call with Ukraine.

    2. If the vote hadn't happened yet, the outcome would be that voters would stay along party lines. Voters usually stay along party lines because of their views. Republicans have similar opinions to Trump so they wouldn't want him impeached; meanwhile, the Democrats have differing views from the President so they would want him out of office. The potential vote compares to the real majority as the Democrats overruled the Republicans 232-196. With more evidence to either prove Trump innocent or guilty, Republicans or Democrats are more likely to vote against party lines.

    3. The vote to formalize the impeachment inquiry does not need to be held sooner. With more time before the votings, there is more time to further investigate President Trump's phone call with the Prime Minister of Ukraine. With more evidence, the House Representatives are more likely to vote for what is right. For instance, if the President were almost proven guilty, more Republicans would vote against Trump.

    4. I can not remember an instance where I defended a friend even though they were wrong. I could imagine that if the President were guilty, some Republicans would still support him because they approve of his views.

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  3. 1. If a was a rebublican in the house I would have gone with the norm of my party. I would do this because if I decided to vote for the continuation of impeachment I would be worried that I would not get elected when the time came. In addition most of the republicans are against impeachment so the would obviously vote against it.

    2. If the vote had not happened yet I do not think there would be much of a difference. The democrats would continue with the impeachment process because there would have been no vote to stop it.

    3. I agree with Ryhs. If I was Nancy Pelosi I would probably wait until there is some solid evidence against Trump that would get some Republicans to join in. At the moment there are not any republicans in the house that want Trump to be impeached and it is most likely the same way in the senate so if I wanted to impeach the president I would wait.

    4. I have never defended a friend who I knew was wrong. If I had a friend who was being ridiculed or bullied for being wrong I would step in and try to make the situation better but I would tell my friend that they were right. In a different circumstance if I had a friend who was clearly wrong about something I would tell them that they were not correct and try to help them.

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  4. 1. If I were a Republican in the House, I would have voted to formalize the inquiry. Although most of the Republican party is against impeachment, the transcript of the call released by the White House clearly showed that Trump did pressure Ukraine to investigate Biden. In addition, just this week, one testifier confirmed that a quid pro quo did happen. Most of the Republicans are against impeachment, but if I were one, I would not fall in line because it would not be the right thing to do. The President is not above the law, and the Constitution is more important than loyalty to any political party. I agree with Julio that an inquiry this serious should not be ignored, and it is incompetent for many Republican politicians to dismiss the inquiry.

    2. Since the House is Democratic controlled by a large margin, and nearly every Democrat is for impeachment, it would be largely expected for the House to vote to formalize impeachment and begin public hearings. Thus, it was no surprise that the House voted to formalize the inquiry. Likewise, the House will probably vote to officially impeach Trump once the time comes.

    3. The vote to formalize the impeachment inquiry and begin public hearings happened at the right time. The Democrats have been pursuing private hearings for about a month, and much news and more incriminating evidence against Trump has come out during that time. Now, through public hearings, more evidence will be displayed to the public, and allow them to make a decision on what the president has done.

    4. I can't remember a time when I supported a friend who was wrong. However, if someone does this for their friend on a small issue, it would probably not be a big deal. In contrast, many Republicans are defending Trump for his wrongdoing or denying clear evidence. This is a large problem, because it shows that politicians are increasingly considering the interests of their party over everything else.

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  5. 1. If I were a Republican in the House, I would vote to formalize the impeachment of President Trump. I say this because, there is evidence to show that Trump pressured Ukraine. I agreed with Shane when he said that Trump did in fact make Ukraine investigate Biden. I would also vote for this because of the quid pro quo that happened according to many reporters. Many Republicans are against the impeachment of Trump, but if I were in their shoes, I would make the right decision not be a follower. Even though, voting to continue the impeachment would be against President Trump, it will expose the truth about the call and investigations against him.

    2. If the vote hadn’t happened yet, then I think it could still be the same or the parties would stay in their own lines of judgment. I say this because, the Republicans support Trump and his decisions, but the Democrats would be the problem. Most of the Republicans don’t want to impeach the President, so why bring it up if it’s not a problem. On the other hand though, the Democrats would still stay something to him no matter what if they really wanted him to be impeached. It would be no surprise if the vote still would formalize the impeachment.

    3. I agree with Nick and Rhys when they say that, Nancy Pelosi should wait until she and the other Democrats have solid and real evidence of against Trump and his decisions. More evidence has come out supporting the impeachment. Though there is more, not all of it may be true and is now viewed to the public.

    4. I can’t remember a time when I supported a friend that was wrong in a situation, but I can say that I have been in a situation where me and a friend though we were right, but turns out we were wrong. We didn’t know we were wrong in the moment so we kept fighting for it, but soon after we realized we were wrong.

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  6. 1. If I was a Republican in the house of representatives, I would have definitely voted against the impeachment. Accusing the president is a very gutsy move and could possibly affect you for the rest of your life. Taking in the fact that you're voting against the most powerful man in the country who could pardon anyone from a crime is already extremely frightening. If the vote was to go against your choice, I would only imagine a world of trouble. This would definitely be a selfish decision but it would definitely be the right choice for my personal well being.

    2. Before the vote came out, I still knew that little to none of the Republicans will vote in agreement to the impeachment. This incident with the president have definitely scared some members of the house if they weren't scared of Trump already.

    3. I agree with shane that they made the right choice by waiting to do the voting. Especially with the lake of Republican votes, the house needed all the democratic votes it could get.

    4. I have definitely defended a friend that did the wrong thing. At times when a close friend does the wrong thing and get a harsh punishment, I would definitely try to make whoever excuse their bad behavior. I know that the friend isn't a bad person and deserves getting made fun of by me and not some harsh punishment.

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  7. 1. If I was a House Republican, I would have voted to formalize the impeachment inquiry regarding President Trump, regardless of the opinion of other Republicans. Peer pressure is no reason to go against common sense. There is solid evidence that President Trump did pressure Ukraine to investigate Biden and his son, and that is not something that the President of the United States can be doing without any retributions. I agree with Julio in that something this big cannot be ignored no matter what.

    2. Because the House of Representatives is mostly Democratic, it would be normal to assume that the outcome would be the same. Even though most Republicans are against the impeachment of President Trump, the fact that there are so many Democrats would be too great an obstacle to overcome.

    3. It would be better if the impeachment inquiry was held later because then there would be even more evidence against President Trump. This would help convince many Republicans to vote for the impeachment and would overall increase the chance of success.

    4. I don't recall any instances where I have defended a friend who was in a wrong situation. While it is important to help your friends when they need it, it is not right when the situation is as big as it is with Trump. The Republicans defending him should not be doing so.

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  8. 1. I would have voted to formalize the impeachment inquiry simply because Trump has and is still doing the wrong things. I agree with Ali that there is evidence that Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate Biden and his son. I feel like if Trump is doing the wrong thing people should act on it, it shouldn't be left there for Trump to continue doing the wrong thing.

    2. If the vote hadn't happened yet I think the result would still be the same. The republicans would probably all agree with each other and they would all vote against it.

    3. It would be better if the vote was later because people would be able to realize what Trump has done wrong, so they can vote against him. If it were held sooner people would have probably had the same response because they wouldn't have as much time to see the evidence against Trump.

    4. It depends if I defend my friend or not. If it is my friend arguing against a person I am not friends with I will defend my friend. But if it is my friend arguing against another friend of mine, I will defend the person who I think is right because there is no reason back up something that is wrong. But yes I have defended a friend that is wrong.

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  9. If I were a Republican in the House, I would have voted to formalize the impeachment inquiry. Although the majority of the Republican party are against the impeachment, President Trump has broken many laws, and is not legible presidential leader. Even though voting against one's political party is though, there is significant evidence against Trump, that would be excused if not acted on.

    The majority of citizens in our country are Republican, knowing what Republicans believe in the outcome of the impeachment is expected. Although Trump participated in many bad instances, in the eyes of the Republicans he is still their ideal presidential candidate to run our country. Unless there is more substantial evidence that appeal to the Republicans their vote regarding the impeachment will stay the same.

    I agree with Shane that the impeachment inquiry was held at the right time. Democrats have participated in an ongoing search to discover evidence against Trump. Recent discoveries have displayed substantial evidence against Trump and his actions, which is why the vote to formalize the impeachment was held at this time, in hope to persuade the Republicans into formalizing the impeachment inquiry.

    No, I don’t remember ever defending someone when I knew they took part in a wrong situation. Although it’s important to support and back up your friends, the amount of support one is given should depend on the action. It isn’t right to defend someone when you are aware of the wong situation they are in. In Trump’s case he took part in a very wrong situation and is being supported by his political party, when he shouldn't be. Everyone is responsible for their actions, which is why people need to create boundaries expectations.

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  10. 1. If I was a Republican voting, I would have gone with formalizing the impeachment inquiry like much of the Democrats did. If I truly believed that the President did nothing wrong then I wouldn't worry about it. As a Republican I would be really nervous about making this decision cause I would be going against other Republicans, and the President.

    2. If the vote hadn't happened yet the Democrats would have kept getting evidence and making a case against Trump. So, the vote would have defiantly gone the same way, and maybe even a Republic would have voted for the impeachment inquiry because of all the evidence.

    3. I agree with Rhys that the vote should not be sooner, because we want all the time we can get to make a case against Trump. If it was held sooner than people would not have been convinced to go against Trump. He has done many things that a President should not be able to do, and he should be held to justice.

    4. I have defended a friend even though they were wrong, but not if it is that big of a deal. With Trump he is the President, so he should be held to higher standards than a civilian.

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  11. 1. If I was a Republican in the house I would have voted to formalize the impeachment of President Trump. Although a majority of the republican party defends the president, it is more important to be loyal to the United States as a country than it is to be loyal to a political party. I agree with Shane that the President is not above the law and that there is enough evidence against the president to cross party lines.

    2. If the vote hadn't happened yet I think that the outcome would be the same. The democrats control the house, so it would be very unexpected for the outcome to come out differently than it did.

    3. I think that the vote to formalize the impeachment inquiry and hold public hearings was made at a good time. The democrats have been holding closed door inquiries for a while now, and a lot of incriminating evidence has come out. Public hearings will be able to inform more people, so that they are able to form a fact based opinion on the situation.

    4. I can't remember a time that I supported for a friend that was wrong. However, if one of my friends was wrong about something unimportant, and was adamant about their stance on the subject I would ignore that and move on.

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  12. If I were one of the republicans in the house of representatives, I would go with the norm of my party. Personally I believe that Trump should be impeached, but in the end my vote wouldn’t really matter. All of the democrats would vote in favor of Trump being impeached, so my vote would be unnecessary. If I voted in favor of Trump being impeached, the other people in the Republican party would think badly of me. By going with the norm of my party, I can keep the respect of the Republicans while also seeing the impeachment inquiry go my way.

    I would definitely assume that the impeachment would happen. There is lots of evidence presented against President Trump, so it would be safe to assume over half of the house would vote against him. Additionally, over half of the House of Representatives are Democrats, and all of them want to see Trump get impeached. Therefore, it would have been rational to assume the vote would be against President Trump.

    I agree with Julio that the impeachment inquiry and vote should have happened a lot sooner. President Trump has done things before that have been on grounds for impeachment, so the inquiry should have happened sooner.

    I have defended friends that were wrong before in minor situations that don’t really matter. However, I would not stick up for a friend that is wrong in a major situation, such as this impeachment inquiry. Although the Republicans want to defend Trump as he is in their party, they should think about doing what is right instead of doing what will benefit them the most.

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  13. 1. If I was a republican I would vote to formalize the impeachment on President Trump. I agree with Nikki on this one because I believe that it’s more important to stay loyal to the people of the USA than to just stay loyal to a president. If the president is doing things that he shouldn’t be doing, then, I believe at that point action should be taken upon the president.
    2. I believe that if the vote hadn’t happened yet, the results would still be the same. I believe this because political parties all chose how they were expected to choose as all the republicans chose with trump and the same goes for democrats voting against Trump.
    3.I think the vote to formalize the impeachment inquiry was held at a good time because people who are voting should not feel rushed and should be able to think about what they want to vote for and with this much time given, they should’ve have been able to think of what side they wanted to vote for.
    4. I have never defended a friend who I knew was wrong. I believe that is the wrong thing to do as you should just kindly correct your friend. You shouldn’t stand up for something you know is wrong.

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  14. 1.Based on Republicans responses and that not a single one voted against Trump, I attempt to be the first that voted against them. I believe that the reason Republicans didn't vote against Trump wasn’t because they all support, but because they either were scared of what the outcome might be if they voted against him, or they didn’t want to be the only ones who were different. So, I would try and prove that while still being a Republican, you can also vote against the current Republican President.
    2. Even if the vote hadn’t happened yet, I still believe that the outcome would remain the same. Although new evidence has come out against Trump, I think that Republicans would continue to do the same thing they did in the past vote. Often, the idea of who is right and wrong is irrelevant, and it’s more about what others are doing, and in this situation the idea that the people not voting against Trump are all Republican.
    3. I think that it shouldn’t be held sooner because if it were, there wouldn’t be enough time to gain more evidence on Trump and the idea of him being impeached. In order for there to be a bigger chance of impeachment, more evidence needs to be gained. So, if they made it sooner, it would decrease the chance of impeachment, and prevent evidence gain.
    4. For me, even if I know my friend is wrong is an argument, I choose to defend them because I know that in whatever way they were in the wrong, they didn’t intentionally cause harm. However, if they have done something really wrong, instead of letting it slide and defending them, instead I call them out, or attempt understanding why they did what they did.

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